So I took a look at the new Firelands loot tables that have just been posted. Now of course none of this is final as it’s all just on PTR and can change at any time…but as of right now I have just one thing to say:
Whoever itemized Holy Paladin gear (ie Plate with Intellect on it) needs to be taken out back and shot….maybe even repeatedly.
I’ll go slot by slot here for upgrades. I wish we had the stats for all of our set pieces out so I could at least feel a little bit better about the sheer amount of Mastery that is currently plaguing our T12 gear.
Head:
Current: Glaciated Helm or Reinforced Sapphirium Headguard
Right now I wear my set helm, along with my set shoulders for the two piece bonus all the time. Sometimes I swap in the set gloves and legs when I know I need to be casting Holy Radiance a lot. Most of the time, however, I don’t even swap in the other two pieces because I’m wearing Heroic gloves and pants.
Firelands “Upgrade”: Casque of Flame (Immolation Headguard)
While, of course, we will be gaining some Intellect over even the Heroic set helm, and it is nice that this new helm has a Red socket for even MORE Intellect (that would be a total of +70 if you use a red gem), we also get….211 MASTERY? Doesn’t Blizz know that our mastery isn’t even that great? Most of the time my little wimpy shields are wasted as it is. I’ll watch them tic off a ranged person that maybe got hit by an AoE and just think to myself…man I wish I wasn’t forced to waste heals. On the Tanks, which I am healing most of the time anyway, of course these shields are not wasted and that’s great….but JUST Mastery? Give me a break.
Neck:
Current: Wyrmbreaker’s Amulet
Our current “best in slot” neck isn’t even that great by my own standards simply because it only has crit on it, but compared to other necks, at least it has spirit.
Firelands: There are a couple possible “upgrades” in Firelands and realistically I would take one over the other.
Flowform Choker and Nightweaver’s Amulet
The Nightweaver’s Amulet is probably going to be easier to get until your guild is clearing some of the new content. The Flowform drops off of the 6th boss in the new raid instance, just before you get to Ragnaros. The Nightweaver’s is a reward from Marks of the World Tree so will probably be easier to obtain than the Flowform.
However, if you’re clearing things relatively quickly The Flowform is going to be the better choice, it’s got more Intellect for one, not to mention a nice Red gem socket. I would end up reforging some of that mastery to spirit though. Again with the Mastery…come on guys.
Shoulders:
Current: Burden of Mortality or Reinforced Sapphirium Mantle
Firelands “updgrade”: Spaulders of Manifold Eyes (Immolation Mantle)
This actually isn’t much different from our current choices. I wore the shoulders off of Chimaeron for quite a while before I got the token for my set shoulders, and the Firelands shoulders are exactly the same stats. I still hate that the only thing on it is mastery, and I hated that when wearing the Chimaeron shoulders as well, and I hate that our set only has Crit on it too :p
Back/Cloak:
Current: Drape of the Twins
Firelands: Lightwing Cloak, Flowing Flamewrath Cloak, Mantle of Desire
The current choice from Valiona and Theralion is pretty much perfect in my opinion. If the darn thing would ever drop, I probably wouldn’t reforge away any of the Haste to anything else.
Looking at our Firelands choices though….The Lightwing Cloak is a raid drop from the Third of the Firelands bosses, which (hopefully) shouldn’t be too difficult to get to. In my opinion though, the stats are lacking. The Lightwing has no Spirit and no Haste which leaves us with a double whammy of bad.
The Flowing Flamewrath Cloak looks a little bit better. It will be coming from Friendly with the Avengers of Hyjal reputation, which I imagine should be relatively easy to get. For a friendly status cloak it is pretty dang good. This cloak DOES have Spirit on it, which makes it more desirable than the raid drop in my opinion. Again though, its only other secondary stat is Mastery, which can be reforged to Haste. I will most likely be going for this Cloak.
The last of the three listed is from a quest which I believe starts and ends with Thrall (though I could be wrong) It has both Haste and Mastery as secondary stats but does not have Spirit. This one is probably the least desirable in my opinion, but maybe the easiest to get.
Breastplate:
Current: Breastplate of Avenging Flame
Firelands: Clutch of the Firemother (Immolation Breastplate)
This breastplate is probably the only armor item I am actually happy with. With the exact same itemization as the current best in slot BP (minus the socket bonus) it’s perfect for us. This drops off the third of the firelands bosses, and depending on the stats of our set breastplate this is a definite item to pick up.
Bracers:
Current: Shackles of the End of Days
Firelands: Bracers of the Dread Hunter
I’ve been saying since the beginning of the expansion, whoever itemized Plate Intellect bracers is on drugs….maybe it was the same person who itemized all the Firelands gear!
Prior to patch 4.1 our only Epic level bracers dropped off of Cho’Gall…and the secondary stats aren’t even that great, but at least the Shackles have Spirit. Now we also have the iLvL 353 Bracers of Hidden Purpose which don’t have Spirit, but DO have Haste and drop out of Zul’Aman
In Firelands, the only redeeming quality to our bracers with Mastery is that they also have Spirit and drop in the middle of the instance rather than the very end boss….so that’s a bit of an improvement I suppose.
Gloves
Current: Flash Freeze Gauntlets
Firelands: Grips of the Raging Giant or Gauntlets of Living Obsidium (Immolation Gloves)
The Grips of the Raging Giant are really not all that terrible, and will be dropping again off of the third of the bosses, but the Gauntlets of Living Obsidium are better in my opinion, as they’re itemized exactly like our current best in slot gloves and come from Marks of the World Tree.
Belt:
Current: Sun King’s Girdle
Firelands: Searing Slice Girdle or Belt of Living Obsidium
The Searing Slice Girdle is probably going to be the better of the two choices being that it does have Haste on it, whereas the Living Obsidium one does not. Both should be relatively easy to obtain though so that is nice. The Girdle comes from being Honored with The Avengers of Hyjal and the Living Obsidium is a Mark of the World Tree reward.
Legs
Current: Legguards of the Emerald Brood
Firelands: Legplates of Absolute Control (Immolation Greaves)
The Firelands Legplates do somewhat redeem themselves by having TWO red sockets, which if you use two red gems this would give you a total of 100 extra intellect on these pants. The do also have Crit on them which is a little bit disappointing since the rest is so nicely itemized in my opinion. Again, this is a piece where I’m hoping our set will have better stats.
Boots:
Current: Eternal Pathfinders or Life Force Chargers
Firelands: Treads of the Penitent Man
Personally I don’t really care for either one of our current boot choices. One lacking spirit, the other lacking haste neither one is really ideal at all. The new Firelands boots are at least itemized with Spirit, which makes them better than the current Valor Point boots by leaps and bounds, but they do lack the haste that the Pathfinders have which makes me a sad sad panda.
Rings:
Current:
Firelands
Since all of the new options from Firelands (either quests, rep or raid) are all itemized with Mastery our choices here and kinda…meh in my opinion. The Signet comes from Avengers of Hyjal reputation and at least offers Spirit, which is great because neither of the other rings have Spirit on them at all. Most likely most people will be wearing the reputation ring with some other ring in their second slot – much like it was during ICC. Of the other two options the Heartspear Ring is going to be the better choice simply because it has more Intellect, Crit, and Mastery. I would reforge to Spirit on this one probably.
Trinkets
Current:
Firelands:
Our trinket choices I am actually really liking. The Jaws of Defeat looks like its going to be a replacement for the Darkmoon Card: Tsunami. The Eye of Awareness reminds me a bit of the old Glyph of Holy Light and would give us some splash heals again which is nice the other nice part is that on paper it at least tries to be smart in who it is healing. I’ll most likely be picking up the Fiery Quintessence and at the very least the Jaws of Defeat. I would really like to try out the Eye of Awareness though.
Weapon
Current: Twilight’s Hammer
Firelands: Hammer of the Firelord
This hammer makes me incredibly happy. It is PERFECTLY itemized for us…it’s only downfall is it drops off of Ragnaros. Again with the last boss dropping one of our (probably) most sought after items.
Offhand
Current: Kingdom’s Heart
Firelands: Ward of the Red Widow
Not only does our new shield have a socket on it, it also has Haste instead of Crit. This is another win for us, and drops off of the very first Firelands boss.
Relic
Current: Relic of Eonar
Firelands: Relic of Elune’s Light
This Relic doesn’t have Spirit on it, and admittedly our Relic choices for T11 are really not that fabulous either. The new Relic is itemized like our other choice for T11 the Relic of Norgannon which I personally bypassed because when I purchased my Relic I needed the Spirit of the other one….aaaand then I never got around to purchasing the other one (woopsie)
So overall not that terrible of a Relic I guess.
Overall I’m a little disappointed with the sheer amount of Mastery that is just everywhere on our off pieces. Our Teir set bonuses are pretty nice, so I can only hope the stat itemization on the pieces is equally nice.
Edit: I hadn’t actually seen the Immolation set stats prior to posting this – and even after looking practically everywhere I STILL had not seen them. However, THANKFULLY our set pieces are much better itemized than the current set.
Immolation Mantle
Immolation Greaves
Immolation Headguard
Immolation Gloves
Immolation Breastplate
In light of this I am definitely happier overall with at least our main pieces being decent. I am still disappointed at many of the off piece choices. I think overall though we should remain to be okay on Haste/Spirit after reforging and all that.
I will again most likely be skipping the breastplate in this set for the more desirable Haste on the Clutch of the Firemother but will most definitely be taking the other 4 pieces for the bonus.